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MD5 Record Set:    Disc 1    -    Disc 2 -    Disc 3 -    Disc 4 -    Disc 5 -    Disc 6
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  • Genesis
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  • BBC Recordings 1970 - 1972
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  • 22nd of February 2009
					
  • Genesis BBC Recordings 1970-1972 This is a compilation of all the BBC recordings Genesis did from '70 to '72. May 2006 All tracks on disc 2 except track 5 as well as the last track on disc 1 in the SHN distro had sector boundary errors. Tracks alligned and re-encoded as FLAC. Setlist updated with correct track times. April 21, 2002 Rev D Disc 1 - same from Rev B Disc 2 - back to original SHN and editted to remove silence from tracks *note: see bottom of file for sources used Disc 1 A. Nightride (2/22/70) 70.01 Shepherd (4:00) 70.02 Pacidy (5:41) 70.03 Let Us Now Make Love (6:13) 70.04 Stagnation (8:03) - much different than Trespass 70.05 Looking For Someone (7:18) - alt lyrics and different ending - quite different than Trespass version *note: Dusk was also performed, but it's not circulating *note2: I've got Stagnation from two sources - one with applause dubbed in at the end and one without. The recording without the dubbed applause is inferior as it has more static and distortion. I prefer the cleaner version with the dubbed applause. Using SoundForge I've removed the applause. It is now 8:03. Both tracks have minor dropouts throughout. From the Genesis Discography: "Some releases of these songs have audience applause dubbed into the mix -- this is not in the original. These are studio recordings." B. Sounds Of The Seventies (5/10/71) 71.01 The Musical Box (11:54) - substantial lyric variation 71.02 Stagnation (8:52) - closer to Trespass version C. Sounds Of The Seventies (1/9/72) 72a.01 Harold The Barrel (2:56) - longer ending; more piano notes than on LP version 72a.02 Harlequin (2:38) - full ending, not fade-out guitar notes as on LP 72a.03 The Return Of The Giant Hogweed (7:30) - cut-off a second or two early - faster, shorter than LP version (8:10) - drums barely audible, less instrumentation? *note: Fountain Of Salmacis was also part of this but it's not circulating *note2: These are the lowest quality recordings of the BBC tapes. There's been some doubt if these were recorded live at the BBC or if they are the Nursery Cryme versions, but to me they are definitely not the same as the LP. I think they were recorded live at the BBC for this broadcast. Harold The Barrel has a longer piano note ending and Harlequin comes to a full ending instead of a fade-out as it has on the LP. Hogweed sounds much different in parts, with two distinct flute notes at 4:30 and 4:32, much more prominent bass from about 5:15 to 6:00, and Mellotron starting around 6:30 ('mighty hogweed is avenged') that isn't heard on the LP. All three tracks also sound fast; perhaps some speed correction is needed? Here is the John Peel introduction (after Harold The Barrel) as best as I can make out: "Can't avoid to say, that would be love (lies) (live) They're listening. That's Genesis and Harold The Barrel. (here there is a possible edit?) That one's called Harlequin. You can be listening to these programs in VHF (muffled)." Chris W has this for the first part of the introduction: " 'Careful what you say about the Beeb lads - they're listening.' He's referring to the mention of the 'man here from the BBC' in HTB." The two song title announcements have been separated and put at the end of each. Please read this: <paste> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:17:39 +0000 From: "CW" Subject: Re: [Hogweeds] BBC Jan 9,1972 >> The thing with those sessions, if you remember, is >> that they used to play the tracks one at a time >> during the two/three hour programme. > >No, I wasn't aware of that! I from the states and I don't >think it was broadcast in my hometown :) No internet broadcasts then! >On my copy of Jan 09, 1972, the spoken part (John Peel?) >seems to be in error. It sounds to me like two song >introductions come after Harold The Barrel. > > Here is my transcription of the introduction: > > (HTB finishes) > > "Can't avoid to say, that would be love (lies) (live). > They're listening. That's Genesis and Harold The > Barrel. (X) That one's called Harlequin. > You can be listening to these programs in VHF (muffled)." > > (Harlequin begins) He says 'Careful what you say about the Beeb (i.e. the BBC), lads - they're listening.' He's referring to the mention of the 'man here from the BBC' in HTB. >It's my opinion that there should be an edit where I've >placed an (X); otherwise the introduction doesn't make >sense. What do you think? You're right about the edit. Harlequin was broadcast on a different day from all the other songs, so there's definitely an edit between the back announcement of Harold and the intro to Harlequin. >I think it also supports my belief that >the songs were recorded prior to broadcast (not live), but >that commonly the practice, right. I'm almost certain the >tracks aren't the same as the NC versions, as some >Paperlaters have thought. The tracks aren't live. They were recorded in a 3 hour session in the BBC studios and the bands were allowed to repeat takes, overdub lines, record backward guitar solos or whatever they wanted to do in the time available. There's a really interesting book about these BBC sessions by Ken Garner. They're definitely different from the NC versions. Just listen to the stonking bass line in Harold The Barrel. You can hardly hear it on Nursery Cryme. </paste> ___________________ Disc 2 D. In Concert (3/2/72) 72b.01 Fountain Of Salmacis (10:05) 72b.02 The Musical Box (10:55) 72b.03 The Return Of The Giant Hogweed (7:42) *note: These sound particularly great E. Sounds Of The Seventies (9/25/72) 72c.01 Twilight Alehouse (8:02) 72c.02 Watcher of The Skies (7:42) 72c.03 Get 'em Out By Friday (8:47) *note: Also very good SQ ___________________ Sources of tracks A. Nightride (2/22/70) 70.01 Shepherd 70.02 Pacidy 70.03 Let Us Now Make Love from Genesis Archives 1967-75 70.04 Stagnation trade from Luis G 70.05 Looking For Someone from From One Fan To All Others B. Sounds Of The Seventies (5/10/71) 71.01 The Musical Box 71.02 Stagnation from From One Fan To All Others C. Sounds Of The Seventies (1/9/72) 72a.01 Harold The Barrel 72a.02 Harlequin from Luis G - radio broadcast 72a.03 The Return Of The Giant Hogweed trade from Willem B - radio broadcast D. In Concert (3/2/72) 72b.01 Fountain Of Salmacis 72b.02 The Musical Box 72b.03 The Return Of The Giant Hogweed from DAT transfer from the BBC master, according to Luis E. Sounds Of The Seventies (9/25/72) 72c.01 Twilight Alehouse 72c.02 Watcher of The Skies 72c.03 Get 'em Out By Friday from DAT transfer from the BBC master, according to Luis ___________________ any comments or corrections please contact: mgoodall.geo@yahoo.com